5/12/2010 6:35:33 PM
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Section 5: OPA Board Subject: Seacrets Lease 4/15/2010 Msg# 738914
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Joe, Please note we inserted "without prior written consent of the Board of Directors" to address that possibility in the current lease. Well, the 2004 lease contained the same language. This is the kind of thing that is somewhat disturbing. Association members are told this is some new protection, but the same protection was in the prior leases and Seacrets apparently ignored it. I think we are talking two different permissions. I looked at the 1999 and 2008 leases (the two old ones I have) and I think it is the "uses" permission you are looking at in those two not construction and doesn't spell out who could authorize other "uses" leaving it to the "Lessor". I am looking at the encroachment language in 3. (a) of the new contract which didn't exist in those two previous contracts. The draft we got was vague which is why we asked to add the written permission of the Board of Directors language to prevent a current or future GM/Board President from independently "authorizing" further encroachments without concurrence of the BoD. Maybe a small point but cleans up a potential gray area. Do you see the encroachment issue I am talking about addressed in the 2004 lease? If not we are talking two different permissions. That is not to say that I don't get nuts or worse when I see some post arguments or speculation not based on any facts, comments based on hearsay or broad generalizations. Sometimes I think they actually do harm when others blindly accept them at face value even when later they are refuted. In addition, it can be disheartening to those volunteers, including me, who are busting their butts to make the best decisions possible for OPA and leads one to question why bother? But I also understand that it is important to have a place where information can be exchanged and owners can ask questions, debate OPA issues, to say nothing of referring home improvement contractors, arguing local or national politics or a myriad of other informational services this forum provides. I have found it best to take on each issue head on and try to fully develop the reasoning to the extent possible (which is why my posts are way too long) behind a recommendation or decision. Perhaps the most important thing I personally get is a different perspective and ideas which, if I am still involved in OPA when the issue arises again, I hope to put to good use. Those on the forum who argue positions or points may not think they are being heard but they are and opposing opinions are good if only to gauge how effectively OPA is communicating with Owners! So while we may (scratch that) will disagree on some issues, I appreciate the opportunity to post. Ted |
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For reference, the above message is a reply to a message where: The right of first refusal is not an issue. I didn't say it was an issue. I said it was not in the prior lease. Obviously Seacrets wanted it in the new lease. In any negotiation what the other side wants has a bearing. As to the ability to fill the land in I hope Art is able to get that confirmed in writing. There are conflicting opinions on the ability to obtain a permit to fill in non-tidal wetlands. However, if we were able to do so I would favor filling the area in tomorrow to gain ground before the rules change again. I would hope Art can definitively report back to the Board in the next ninety days. Confirmed in writing? Impossible. The only way to find out is to begin the permitting process. There may be conflicting opinions but Seacrets did what good business people do -- they wanted something, tried, and were successful. OPA, on the other hand, spends all its time coming up with reasons why we can't do something. However, as you pointed out this does not take into account what Mr. Moore was willing to pay. And therein lies the very heart of any negotiation with Seacrets. OPA can't really know the Seacrets upside. However, as you know, either side in a negotiation is at a distinct disadvantage if not prepared to walk away entirely. Moore knows his walk-away point. I doubt OPA does, or would. Regarding the encroachment you write: Please note we inserted "without prior written consent of the Board of Directors" to address that possibility in the current lease. Well, the 2004 lease contained the same language. This is the kind of thing that is somewhat disturbing. Association members are told this is some new protection, but the same protection was in the prior leases and Seacrets apparently ignored it. The penalty for doing so? Nothing. The benefit of Seacrets doing so? The current blessing of the encroachment. One board member took great pride in a clause in the new contract saying if the lease was not renewed at some point then Seacrets would have to remove the encroaching structures. Now that is really tough negotiating.
Obviously, we can't easily change it today but I am interested in the future. I agree. Maybe OPA should consider someone like an Ed Moran to negotiate for us. Again, I appreciate you discussing the issues in a rational manner, rather than assailing my intent in raising the issues or making my "adjectives" more important than the issues. We may not always agree, but you always express your opinions in a thoughtful manner. How can we clone seven of you for the board? |
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